OK, so it's not like there's a group of beta testers who were working with Todd on 10, right?
Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
I don't know if there is or isn't. I am not in a beta group.SteveMouzon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:12 pmOK, so it's not like there's a group of beta testers who were working with Todd on 10, right?
Greg La Vardera
www.lamidesign.com
www.lamidesign.com
Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
I have a question regarding Form Z if you use it…
Been fiddling with the trial version of Pro and I can't get consistent results in the Draft module…
Is it just buggy or is it PEBCAK?
Paul
Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
Originally their drafting side of the program didn’t seem all that great. So I just never focused on trying to do any output with it
I’ve always used the program for what most people do with it. Some kind of architectural visualization or rendering. Modeling
But I do use the modeling side of the program with my Leica Disto S910. It’s great for bringing in DXF’s. And then I could send that DXF out to HighDesign for instance
But you got me kind of curious. It’s been so long since I even opened up the draft module. Just now I fired up and took a look at their latest version of draft
TIP — as with both formZ and HighDesign, once you start to drag something out, you tap TAB (may be more than one time to get to the field you want) and key in the amount and then hit tab again and key in again if necessary, and then when you’re satisfied, hit return or enter
What exactly is it that you’re trying to do with formZ Draft? Maybe I can help
Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
I'm considering learning to use it alongside Sketchup, which I've been using for nearly 20 yearsS. Shubin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:45 pmWhat exactly is it that you’re trying to do with formZ Draft? Maybe I can help
Not comfortable with the direction Trimble seems to be going
I watched the YouTube video on using Draft but I have intermittent trouble with frames that either don't show the model view as I have it set up, the frame doesn't update changes in the model and sometimes it goes blank, like it's losing the reference.
After that inserting new frames are blank even after I reference/update a model view
I think more than anything before I waste $1000 I'd like to know from someone that uses the Draft module that it works…
Guess I better watch that video again…got 15 days left on my trial period
Paul
Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
FormZ has a particular way of working
Once you get used to it, it ain’t that bad
For instance, if you apply the union tool to an overlapping circle and square, It may look like things were not unioned together — but they were.
What has happened is the original objects were ghosted (upon Union). And if you just move the cursor over part of the outline you will see how they are unioned together. You have the new unioned part overlapping the original parts that are now ghosted
You can use the unghost tool on the original objects and then delete them, If you want.
Or you can go up to the edit command and down to clear all ghosted
Or you can just leave the ghosted parts where they’re at
ALSO — Make sure you have the tool options palette visible or open when you select things
Once you get used to it, it ain’t that bad
For instance, if you apply the union tool to an overlapping circle and square, It may look like things were not unioned together — but they were.
What has happened is the original objects were ghosted (upon Union). And if you just move the cursor over part of the outline you will see how they are unioned together. You have the new unioned part overlapping the original parts that are now ghosted
You can use the unghost tool on the original objects and then delete them, If you want.
Or you can go up to the edit command and down to clear all ghosted
Or you can just leave the ghosted parts where they’re at
ALSO — Make sure you have the tool options palette visible or open when you select things
Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
Paul,
Go ahead and call formZ tech-support. I’m quite sure they’re going to help you out even if you are on a trial use. In fact I would be surprised if they didn’t. The guys are real nice over there. Tell them exactly what’s happening and let them walk you through it
AutoDesSys Inc
(614) 488-7984
Again I have nothing to do with formZ other than being a person that has paid full price for his copy
Go ahead and call formZ tech-support. I’m quite sure they’re going to help you out even if you are on a trial use. In fact I would be surprised if they didn’t. The guys are real nice over there. Tell them exactly what’s happening and let them walk you through it
AutoDesSys Inc
(614) 488-7984
Again I have nothing to do with formZ other than being a person that has paid full price for his copy
Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
Paul,
I just spoke with tech-support over at formZ. The guy said you can send your file over to them. And he’ll take a look at it. So if for some reason you can’t communicate by phone, send a file and words describing what your having a problem with, and they’ll help you out. They’re real nice guys
I just spoke with tech-support over at formZ. The guy said you can send your file over to them. And he’ll take a look at it. So if for some reason you can’t communicate by phone, send a file and words describing what your having a problem with, and they’ll help you out. They’re real nice guys
Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
I don’t remember working with layout before. If I did it probably was next to nothing. I’ve always just worked with formZ modelingpjmeli wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:03 pmI watched the YouTube video on using Draft but I have intermittent trouble with frames that either don't show the model view as I have it set up, the frame doesn't update changes in the model and sometimes it goes blank, like it's losing the reference.
After that inserting new frames are blank even after I reference/update a model view
I think more than anything before I waste $1000 I'd like to know from someone that uses the Draft module that it works…
Paul
So I watched 15 minutes of the YouTube video ‘New formZ Layout 8.5’
Then I called tech-support and I spoke with a guy and asked him questions about frames and panes, drafting and layout. I probably spoke with the guy for about five minutes till I felt I had some kind of a basic understanding.
I opened up a new formZ Pro file or document and created some stairs with the stair tool.
I then opened up a new layout. And I used the multi frame tool and I just went with the default views
I then deleted the upper left frame
Went back to the model and created a scene
Went back to layout and selected the single frame tool and made a frame in the upper left where I had previously deleted one
Then in modeling — proceeded to draw a cuboid coming out of the side of the upper flight of stairs. And then drew a column coming out of that cuboid and then another little column. All along I would make saves in the model. Then I would switch to layout and upon switching to layout directly after saving the model change, a dialog box would pop-up notifying me of a change made and I would just press OK in the lower right
Then the layout would open up and the new changes would show in the four different frames
Now the model I had was a basic model.
But I could understand that if you have a pretty involved model, that sometimes things can get buggy.
Seems to me, that when I have tried some programs and used their TRIAL versions, that sometimes those things just were buggy for some reason
So here you have gotten the experience from a guy that although he’s used formZ in modeling for a long time, well he hasn’t used layout really ever before to speak of. And so this was new to me.
It worked for me. It worked when making changes to the model. Changes to the model would reflect properly in the different frames within layout
You should send your file to tech-support at form Z. And if you can, call them. Or just put in words, what the problem is when you email them your file
Directly below is the dialog box that pops up after I make a change to the model, when I click on the layout
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Re: Life after/beyond PowerCadd?
Yeah I get the same dialog. When I click OK nothing happens some of the time. Right now the current Layout/model combo is unresponsive…
Maybe it's because I imported a Sketchup model (via dwg) to practice on.
I'll try creating a new model using only Form Z…
Thanks
Paul